Mrs. Searcher asked me yesterday why we're not hearing from ex/J.W.'s on this site how the congregations in Australian have reacted to the A.R.C.
Is there a lot of murmuring/upset at what was revealed publicly? Be interesting to hear.
i was just doing my midweek studying...reading god's kingdom rules book...so far has anyone noticed many of the stories mention australia.
page 73 a momentous convention...a convention was held in july of 1931 & it was transmitted via more than 450 radio stations in australia, etc....they seem to mention australia more & more in the wt, books, etc.
this is a set-up...keep on watch...this book is being studied at this time for a reason...how timely.
Mrs. Searcher asked me yesterday why we're not hearing from ex/J.W.'s on this site how the congregations in Australian have reacted to the A.R.C.
Is there a lot of murmuring/upset at what was revealed publicly? Be interesting to hear.
the title should have read, "assault by a member toward another member".
(unfortunately, i couldn't find a way to edit the title).
you happen to be driving by what looks to be your own empty kingdom hall and something doesn't look quite right.
I promise that this is the truth:
While having a cup of tea and a chat with an elder and his wife at their home, (former congregation) I asked him point-blank, "If a brother telephoned you tonight and told you that he'd just stabbed someone to death, would you 'phone Bethel for advice or call the police?"
His reply: "It would depend if it was another Witness he'd killed!"
Elders become a different species when they receive their "glorious" title.
the wt march 2017, p.11, par.
13 quotes ephesians 4:8 as saying, "the bible refers to them as 'gifts in men.
however, the org's own kingdom interlinear translation (and every other bible translation) gives a truthful translation of the verse: .
The WT March 2017, p.11, par. 13 quotes Ephesians 4:8 as saying, "The Bible refers to them as 'gifts in men.'"
However, the org's own Kingdom Interlinear Translation (and every other Bible translation) gives a truthful translation of the verse:
K.I.T. = "Through which he is saying.......................and he gave gifts to the men."
These couldn't be the gifts which Paul spoke about at 1 Corinthians chapter 12, could they? :)
I honestly wonder how many J.W.'s look at their elders and regard them as "gifts."
Pity that Witnesses don't use their K.I.T. to verify what the RNWT says!
during the book study which is basically a book all about the history of "gods organization" ©.
a paragraph that hit me like a ton of the proverbial bricks was this.... 9 first, jehovah’s servants came to have the proper view of the importance of god’s name.
faithful early bible students viewed the ransom arrangement as the bible’s main teaching.
According to Revelation 3:14, God already has a "faithful & true witness" - he doesn't need any more!
However, the scriptures instructed Christians who they were to witness for:
Matthew 10:18 - ".....for my sake, for a witness to them and the nations.
Mark 13:9 - "......before governors and kings for my sake, for a witness to them."
Luke 24: 47,48 - "....and on the basis of his [Jesus'] name....You are to be witnesses....."
John 1:15 - "John bore witness about him..." [JESUS]
John 5:37 - "the Father who sent me has himself borne witness about me."
John 8:18 - "the Father who sent me bears witness about me."
John 15:26,27 - "the spirit will bear witness about me; and YOU in turn, are to bear witness."
Acts 1:8 - "You [11 faithful apostles] will be witnesses of me...."
Acts 4:17,18 - ...upon the basis of this (Jesus') name .... upon the basis of the name of Jesus.
Acts 10:39 - "And we are witnesses of all the things he [Jesus] did..."
Acts 10:43 - "To him [Jesus] all the prophets bear witness....."
Acts 13:31 - "who are now his (Jesus') witnesses to the people.
Acts 22:15 - "because you are to be a witness for him [Jesus] to all men......"
Acts 22:20 - "......the blood of Stephen your [Jesus'] witness was being spilled..."
Acts 23:11 - "..... a thorough witness on the things about me in Jerusalem..."
Acts 26:16 -"I [Jesus]..choose you as an attendant and a witness respecting me"
Romans 8:16 - "The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit..."
1 Corinthians 1:6 - "even as the witness about the Christ..........."
1 Timothy. 2:6 - "......what is to be witnessed to at its own particular times."
2 Timothy 1:8 - "............of the witness about our Lord.. [Christ]"
1 John 5:9 - "the witness God gives...the fact that he has borne witness concerning his Son."
Revelation 1:9 - "....for speaking about God and bearing witness to Jesus."
Revelation 12:17 - ".......and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus."
Revelation 17:6 - "........and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus."
Revelation 19:10 -".....the work of witnessing to Jesus.... bearing witness to Jesus."
Revelation 20:4 - "............ for the witness they bore to Jesus."
For whose name were Christians to witness? (see 29 scriptures above)
For whose name would Christians be hated? (Matt. 10:22)
By whose name were people healed? (Acts 3:6; Acts 4:10)
By whose name were demons expelled? (Luke 10:17; Acts 16:18)
By whose name would people receive Holy Spirit? (John 14:26)
In whose name would people pray to God? (John 15:16)
By whose name would people be named? (Isa. 62:2; Acts 11:26)
By whose name would people be reconciled to God? (Rom. 5:10; 2 Cor. 5:18)
By whose name would people be forgiven their sins? (Matt. 26:28; Acts 2:38; Eph. 1:7)
In whose name would people be judged? (John 5:27)
By whose name would people be resurrected (John 5:28)
In whose name would people be baptized? (Acts 2:38, 8:16, 10:48, 19:5, 22:16)
In whose name were people to put faith? (John 2:23)
In whose name was Saul/Paul commissioned to preach? (Acts 9:14-16)
For whose name would Christians be reproached? (1 Peter 4:14)
In whose name were Christians to gather together? (Matt. 18:20)
For whose name would Christians make sacrifices? (Matt. 19:29)
For whose name would Christians be persecuted and killed? (Luke 21:12,16,17)
In whose name will every knee in heaven and on earth bend? (Philippians 2:10)
In whose name would people be declared righteous? (1 Cor. 6:11)
By means of whose name would Christians offer a sacrifice of praise? (Hebrews 13:15)
The names 'Jehovah' or 'God' are notable by their absence.
an unusual and amusing will was contested in an australian court a few years ago.the deceased man separated from his wife in 1959 and shortly after the wife was baptized as a jw.
in the following years their four children also got baptized.
apparently this enraged the deceased for the remainder of his life, who was himself a catholic.his will included two conditions that his four children were required to fulfill before they would qualify to receive their share of the inheritance.
:)
as i have revealed in other threads my mother and i havent talked in over 2 years.
she has been keeping her distance, therefore staying loyal to jehovah.
she found me on facebook.
"All of your questions could be answered if you put Jehovah to the test" - but not if you put the organization to the test!
That's now the unforgiveable sin in many J.W.'s eyes. (1st Peter 3:15 is now a no-no for the r&f)
so sunday afternoon tea with my "anionted" mum and her old witness holy friends.
they start talking trump how he "is gonna do somthing to start armegedon.
" no sad faces about this apocalipse.
@ prologos - as the scripture shows, Babylon the great is the mother of the so-called harlots - not the complete entity! (Rev. 17:5) Logically, BTG represents the worst and most influential of all these "harlots", and her ultimate demise apparently brings the other "harlots" to their end as well.
Doesn't solve the riddle of who BTG actually is though!
i just wanted to add my name to the many number of people who have awakened from the cult.
i have been lurking for probably 2 years now.
and i'm quite certain there are many more lurking and reading just like me.. i have to be honest and say that i most likely will not be contributing much to the discussion board.
Welcome Lancashire lass. Enjoy the association here.
not playing their game, as i've learned here.
they came to my door to find me with a full beard and a nightmare before christmas hoody, playing a video game where the characters "do not act according to bible principles", and i happily answered the door.
i simply smiled and told them no when they asked if i have a minute.
Beautifully dealt with!!
As a very wise geneticist once advised me, "Searcher, if you've got nothing to say, don't say it!
You gave them nothing!
so as i announced last week, my wife and i started our fade and i sent in a letter to our body that i was stepping down and cited the arc as the reason and insisted that we not be bothered.
my wife told a few relatives in person that we weren't going to attend meetings any longer (immediate shunning occurred, the new videos must be effective) and that what we found with the arc shocked us etc etc.
i have an inside track on how this is all going down by an awake elder on the body, co told them to handle the matter quickly.
Say nothing more, give them nothing more - not even your time!
When they contact you to "request" a meeting with you, politely ask what the meeting is about. When they tell you what's on their mind, simply say that you are grateful for their "offer", but that you are having to deal with private & personal issues which have sorely troubled you - and if things change, you will gladly call them!
If you want to fade, I'd try to minimise/defuse the statements already made to others.
If the call reveals that their "swords" are drawn, your Plan B looks likely.
I wish you well.